"Love can do that to us all. Challenging someone you love can be hard. You don't want to doubt them. You don't want to hurt them. But sometimes, they need to hear the things that are hard to hear. And we need to be the ones to tell them. It is a hard balance to find. I think for all of us. Especially when sometimes those challenges can seem like you're pushing someone way, even though you are trying to pull them closer."
Macaque leans into the contact. It's nice to hear that this isn't just a him-problem.
"I have a fear of being rejected if I challenge my partners. Wukong was so different long ago, and I was sure that if I pushed too hard he'd boot me out of his nest and his life. And he always ignored my concerns anyway. With MK, when I challenge him, he spirals. Or at least he did, he seems to be more even-keeled since he went home and returned. But his spiraling was so painful for him that I had to just stop the line of discussion. I guess that fear transferred to Candid."
"I have told MK this, by the way. That sometimes I don't tell him things because of the spiraling. And I still have the same habit with Wukong, but that's harder to talk about since now he's sorrowful instead of aggressive, and it's essentially my fault."
Lucifer keeps the contact. He isn't about to pull away right now.
"You can challenge me whenever you want. I will not reject you if you do. Perhaps you could ask Wukong and MK if you challenge them, ask them to confirm they aren't going to push you away. And vice versa. That way they know they can challenge back and it doesn't ruin anything. Those spirals sound painful to watch. ...Perhaps the same is true of Wukong since he went home too? I've noticed a difference with him too since he returned."
"MK seems better because of what he learned about himself. Wukong seems different for the same reason." Learning that MK was meant as a sacrifice and that he actually tried to do it and activated Wukong's circlet in the process has to be a lot. Macaque even forgave MK for that immediately... maybe he should have tried to talk that through first?
"I suppose I could ask them beforehand. At least that makes sure that they're in the right mindset for a real talk which could be hard. And if they're not, I'll know it sooner."
"...Lucifer, I truly appreciate you trying to help me and I value your input, but I want to make sure it's clear that I don't want you to be a therapist for me. I want us to lean on each other, not for me to do all the leaning and you do all the work. I realize that this is one conversation, that we're not in any danger of that, but I also know your role at the hotel and how things can become habit. I love you because you're you."
Lucifer knows really only MK and Wukong can define why they seem different. He is glad to hear Macaque is considering asking. To help with those subject and harder talks. His smile is soft when Macaque checks in on being his therapist.
"Fair enough. I'll do my best to remember it. I love you because you're you too, you know. And I know if the situation was reversed, you'd be trying to help me work my way through things. For right now then, since I think you have plenty to think about, do you want to just cuddle? Maybe kiss and stay close? See if a nap is in our future together?"
Lucifer holds Macaque and gives his ears a kiss. Then kisses his cheek and just pets him. He lets himself relax with his mate. Just holding him close and being here. Letting Macaque just be with him and being here with him.
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"Love can do that to us all. Challenging someone you love can be hard. You don't want to doubt them. You don't want to hurt them. But sometimes, they need to hear the things that are hard to hear. And we need to be the ones to tell them. It is a hard balance to find. I think for all of us. Especially when sometimes those challenges can seem like you're pushing someone way, even though you are trying to pull them closer."
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"I have a fear of being rejected if I challenge my partners. Wukong was so different long ago, and I was sure that if I pushed too hard he'd boot me out of his nest and his life. And he always ignored my concerns anyway. With MK, when I challenge him, he spirals. Or at least he did, he seems to be more even-keeled since he went home and returned. But his spiraling was so painful for him that I had to just stop the line of discussion. I guess that fear transferred to Candid."
"I have told MK this, by the way. That sometimes I don't tell him things because of the spiraling. And I still have the same habit with Wukong, but that's harder to talk about since now he's sorrowful instead of aggressive, and it's essentially my fault."
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"You can challenge me whenever you want. I will not reject you if you do. Perhaps you could ask Wukong and MK if you challenge them, ask them to confirm they aren't going to push you away. And vice versa. That way they know they can challenge back and it doesn't ruin anything. Those spirals sound painful to watch. ...Perhaps the same is true of Wukong since he went home too? I've noticed a difference with him too since he returned."
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"I suppose I could ask them beforehand. At least that makes sure that they're in the right mindset for a real talk which could be hard. And if they're not, I'll know it sooner."
"...Lucifer, I truly appreciate you trying to help me and I value your input, but I want to make sure it's clear that I don't want you to be a therapist for me. I want us to lean on each other, not for me to do all the leaning and you do all the work. I realize that this is one conversation, that we're not in any danger of that, but I also know your role at the hotel and how things can become habit. I love you because you're you."
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"Fair enough. I'll do my best to remember it. I love you because you're you too, you know. And I know if the situation was reversed, you'd be trying to help me work my way through things. For right now then, since I think you have plenty to think about, do you want to just cuddle? Maybe kiss and stay close? See if a nap is in our future together?"
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He nuzzles his way into Lucifer's neck and just relaxes and breathes.
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