Any half-wit could probably have predicted that it was a terrible idea. I was way too emotionally constipated to see it then. And now isn't going much better sometimes.
...Me being your family turned into a disaster too. And I hate that you're so used to disasters that you just accept it.
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At this point I wouldn't be surprised if it's a me problem. Because I can't not worry. I can't separate myself so things don't affect me when people feel like they don't or shouldn't. And I'm the one who can't feel safe with the idea that finding a family seems to mean there will always be a side taken over other members. So maybe you're not the who who made it a disaster in this case. Not completely.
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I'm probably going to think that for a while no matter what anyone says. But the good news there is that means I can do things to make it better, one hopes.
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If there were things I could do that would make you feel better about us, other than listening to you which we've already got a deal on, what would they be? I'll start there.
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I don't know what we are as family, so I don't have an answer for that.
I'll tell you a secret though. Something I only kind of made sure MK knows. It was easy to get close to you both once I knew you cared because I know that if you ever do I can't really do anything because you're much more powerful than me. So knowing you only wanted the opposite for me made things easy.
We might be kind of starting over, but I'm pretty sure that's still true. The only difference now is I know that you have a line so I know better when it's coming.
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Well yeah you could kill me easily. But I mean hurt specifically. And yeah, knowing that you can but you want me to be okay helps. Because it had meant that I wasn't worrying about you doing it. Which I know is weird, but it meant I could focus more on us and what was going on and less on when the pain was coming.
Not the one with your kids. I've seen that one before. Others maybe. I believe that. But that one I have to move mine I think, when I figure out how to. I need to sort out home stuff somehow mainly.
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I've never had kids to have a line with before, so I can't say that I'll never soften that position a little. It might evolve. I know that I have to put them first, but the rest I'm figuring out as I go.
What line would you possibly have to move?
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Putting them first isn't the problem at all. They need you.
I need to deal with the fact that kids always having the people that are parenting for them on their side, in basically everything. That's all. If it's expected that they do, then me not doing that is the weird part. It's the thing that makes me feel less safe and if I can work through that then I be able to eventually be able to feel fully safe.
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And no. I'm saying that knowing one side will always be taken makes me feel unsafe because I've seen been through all of the pain that doing that cause already. And if that's what's normal then I need to work on being okay with that. Not your actual relationship. That I'm happy with for all of you.
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Weren't you the one who said your emotional experience is like a child's?
I'll be surprised if you come back and say it wasn't. If only because I haven't heard one yet with you.
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Yes yes, we all bow to your wisdom. It's not my fault that I get a thing for people who get a thing back. So far.
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Are you sure? I almost fell into that while I was figuring things out and properly sorted you.
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Good thing that didn't happen. What a disaster it would have been.
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I like you more as family anyway. Whether or not it might have been a disaster.
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...Me being your family turned into a disaster too. And I hate that you're so used to disasters that you just accept it.
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At this point I wouldn't be surprised if it's a me problem. Because I can't not worry. I can't separate myself so things don't affect me when people feel like they don't or shouldn't. And I'm the one who can't feel safe with the idea that finding a family seems to mean there will always be a side taken over other members. So maybe you're not the who who made it a disaster in this case. Not completely.
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But I care more about fixing it than I care about assigning blame at this point.
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My kids say that they feel safe with me. But I don't think that what I do there will work with us. It's an entirely different kind of family.
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I'll tell you a secret though. Something I only kind of made sure MK knows. It was easy to get close to you both once I knew you cared because I know that if you ever do I can't really do anything because you're much more powerful than me. So knowing you only wanted the opposite for me made things easy.
We might be kind of starting over, but I'm pretty sure that's still true. The only difference now is I know that you have a line so I know better when it's coming.
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My lines can be moved, given a good enough reason. Which you are.
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Not the one with your kids. I've seen that one before. Others maybe. I believe that. But that one I have to move mine I think, when I figure out how to. I need to sort out home stuff somehow mainly.
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I've never had kids to have a line with before, so I can't say that I'll never soften that position a little. It might evolve. I know that I have to put them first, but the rest I'm figuring out as I go.
What line would you possibly have to move?
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Putting them first isn't the problem at all. They need you.
I need to deal with the fact that kids always having the people that are parenting for them on their side, in basically everything. That's all. If it's expected that they do, then me not doing that is the weird part. It's the thing that makes me feel less safe and if I can work through that then I be able to eventually be able to feel fully safe.
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So you're saying that my relationship with my kids highlights what you've lost in your life? Something like that?
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And no. I'm saying that knowing one side will always be taken makes me feel unsafe because I've seen been through all of the pain that doing that cause already. And if that's what's normal then I need to work on being okay with that. Not your actual relationship. That I'm happy with for all of you.
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I see. I'm sorry. I don't know what to do with that.
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It's fine. That's why I have to figure it out however I can.
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