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Six-Eared Macaque ([personal profile] castaside) wrote2023-10-02 07:00 pm
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schrodingerscockroach: (Just follow orders)

Re: A couple days after the Questionable Coping

[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2024-05-12 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
He shrugged. "Some people do have a limit on what help they'll offer," he pointed out. "And not letting someone take advantage of your feelings is not an unreasonable boundary. Its good to be clear. Especially if you want to be able to help, even when I'm being royally fucked in the head."

He gestures in the air. "Its like how I am with Choco. She wants to be able to help when I'm fucked in the head, but we both also recognized that when I'm like that, I can't be trusted to hold back. So I try to not be around her when I'm like that, and she tries to not push into a more active role in helping. I don't viciously tear her down one way or another, and she doesn't make me hate myself because I did something I couldn't take back. Its not a situation we really like, but one we recognize is best for our own individual mental health in the long run."

He tosses the plum pit to the water, watching the ripples form that go under. "I'm not against help. I'm against someone sacrificing their own mental health for me."
schrodingerscockroach: (Calm instruction)

Re: A couple days after the Questionable Coping

[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2024-05-12 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
"I figured that you have limits beyond what happened. I knew even before we started that if you really didn't want to be there, there wasn't any scenario where I was going to keep you there if you didn't agree somewhat. But I'd rather not hit those limits just because I was afraid to have the conversation," he said. "Had enough of that in my life. Better to address it at the start."

He shrugged his shoulders and picks up a mango, offering it to him. "And, really, full disclosure for that interest. I'm in a lot better place than I was five years ago. But I don't know how long it'll be before all those bad habits are fully gone. I don't think I'll get worse than that, at least not without mental fuckery going on, and I would be very careful when it comes to my potential Heart Game, but I wouldn't hold it against you if you didn't want to deal with those relapses."
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Re: A couple days after the Questionable Coping

[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2024-05-12 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
Start of any kind of bad pattern of behavior. Friendship or more, really. He doesn't want to look up and be halfway down the road.

"Rule one with me; I don't need perfection, just trying. Telling me after the fact is good at helping keep things together," he said.

"Hmm, I just know how much of a bastard I can be," he said. "But Heart Games are special circumstances, and nothing soon. We have a lot of time to sort out other things."
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Re: A couple days after the Questionable Coping

[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2024-05-12 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
"Which is fair, honestly," Wash said. Wash knows the want to not be altruistic and pushing yourself for other impulse.

He nods and takes the piece. "That's all I ask. I can pick up a lot, but it can be hard to judge when I should push someone when struggling with a personal issue, especially if I just know something is there, but not what specifically," he said, popping it into his mouth.

Wash snorts. "Yyyyyeah, introspection doesn't seem his strong suit," he said. "As well as learning avoiding being kind of lowkey patronizing. The kind that doesn't mean any harm, but sometimes that can be even more grating. But luckily I have patience in spades. It's kind of a must being Blue Team leader."
schrodingerscockroach: (Very tired)

Re: A couple days after the Questionable Coping

[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2024-05-12 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
"I feel like I should be more concerned about that killing you thing, but that also feels like me throwing rocks at glass houses," he said. Intent, but failed is pretty close to actual murder. Plus all the times the guys talked about Caboose killing Church....

There is a pause. "You may need better taste in men. Red Son hasn't tried to kill people who are important to him to, has he?" He's just saying, Macaque. Three for three is a bad sign.

He nods. "I can get that. I've pulled on bad habits before in extreme circumstances," he said. Macaque's seen it. Its not exactly a sane and healthy person who can shoot their little sister, even if she IS being puppeteered by a supreme bitch. "But that's why..." He gestures around them. "Check ins are important after the circumstances pass."
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Re: A couple days after the Questionable Coping

[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2024-05-12 04:42 pm (UTC)(link)
"So its just MK whose the exception," he said with a dry chuckle. Noting that Red Son was also like that. Macaque really could use better taste.

He'll accept the fruit. "But MK also has that 'exception to many rules' vibe about him." He's met the type several times. There are just airs about them. Aoko was the same, that's why she has so many shady people around her.

"It is, yes. I like I said, Choco needs a yay or nay on asking for help from you in the future," he said. "If its a nay, she'd want to know, and telling her sooner is better to help her recover from any feelings of guilt. Easier to recover from one mistake, especially when its a mistake that she wouldn't be surprised by. And having a yay sooner would assure her of any anxiety she has right now because she knows dealing with me like that isn't easy, especially when she knows I don't need to beat someone in a fight to find ways to hurt them. Its why people like Nyssa and that bone lady don't make a lot of ground with me. I'm very good with those games too."
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Re: A couple days after the Questionable Coping

[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2024-05-12 05:26 pm (UTC)(link)
"Its more I'm asking for an honest answer from you. Take out the want to help me as a counterweight," he said, resting his elbow on a knee, chin in hand as he studies him. "Would you be okay? If I got that bad again, could you recover? And work with me to make sure that you don't fall into your own bad habits?"
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Re: A couple days after the Questionable Coping

[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2024-05-12 05:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Wash studies him as he answers. Looking for signs of lying or attempts at downplaying. Its a very serious question, and he has to be careful. He doesn't like making people punching bags. He doesn't like being an asshole. He fights everyday to not be that person anymore.

But he's also far too aware that he can't say he won't trip and relapse. Proven that he did. It wasn't as bad as his darkest days, but he knows that's in him and its going to be a long time before he can ever confidently say he won't do it again.

Having a safety net wouldn't be a bad idea. One that isn't a kid. Someone who can fight back. The Blues and Reds could do that. Tucker was always quick to call him out on his bullshit when he started waning, and the Reds were willing to just walk. And Caboose...

Caboose is Caboose.

And of course, Carolina simply understood.

It isn't a bad idea to have the contingency plan, as loath as he is to admit it. Its just like he's always ready to shoot someone he loves if he has to. One of those fucked up things.

"All right," he said, looking to the water. "But if you notice it is making you worse, then we're changing things. And if I notice it, the same thing. I'm too self aware to pretend I can always avoid the fucked up thing, but I want to minimize the damage."
schrodingerscockroach: (An open moment)

Re: A couple days after the Questionable Coping

[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2024-05-12 06:15 pm (UTC)(link)
"I haven't," he said. Then he paused. "Unless you count evil bitch heart manifestations, but Hearts are always a messy situation." He was definitely playing games with Lady Bone Demon because he figured he was better at dealing with the mind games than Wukong.

"I can't say I don't use those practices with strangers or assholes, but I try to be honest with people who I want to have a good relationship with, and definitely friends and family," he said. "I don't want to use you as a matter of course."
schrodingerscockroach: (Will let a man fight gravity)

Re: A couple days after the Questionable Coping

[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2024-05-12 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)
"Good," he said, letting his head lightly thud back against the tree, closing his eyes. He takes a deep breath and lets it out slowly.

Repeats a few times.

It is a relief to know he hasn't royally fucked with Macaque's head. He was honest. He didn't want to have a relationship with lies and manipulations being apart of it. He's lived through that far too much to seek it out.

"Though really, if you did have some selfish motives, you could just ask for a date," he said. He's just saying.
schrodingerscockroach: (Accepted the dumbassery)

Re: A couple days after the Questionable Coping

[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2024-05-12 06:52 pm (UTC)(link)
"Better to take care of the heavy stuff, otherwise it festers," he said with a shrug. "Also it'd be real fucked up to bring up a date after that without actually addressing the whole using you thing. That's how you get on the slippery slope."

He chuckles and opens his eyes. "Well, now you just know the way to a guy's heart," he said.
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Re: A couple days after the Questionable Coping

[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2024-05-12 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
"That's because cats are awesome," he said. "Little bundles of love."

He nods. "I do. I love him, I wouldn't have adopted him if I didn't, but he has a lot of father issues and it can be hard to take when he stops actually seeing me and I can't get his eyes to clear." He has enough difficulties seeing him as himself and when one of those other people is actually a terrible father, it gets to be...

A lot.

"Hopefully it'll be easier to help when there are more people in his life he can depend on without that issue. So breaks will help, keep me from messing up."