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Six-Eared Macaque ([personal profile] castaside) wrote2023-10-02 07:00 pm
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Re: UN: FreeDyver - Text (After Movie Night #5...Sometime post-deal.)

[personal profile] tethered_roamer 2025-12-18 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Candid made his own choices. But like everything else that happened it was for a reason that was connected to everything. That's not me blaming anyone for his actions. And it's too close together for me to just consider it a thing between me and him. Too many feelings, too much personal experience.

We're not going to agree it is, so the only one we know it will be is you. Which is all I want at the moment.
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Re: UN: FreeDyver - Text (After Movie Night #5...Sometime post-deal.)

[personal profile] tethered_roamer 2025-12-18 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
You'd have blame if you did see it and didn't do anything. And even if you had, you didn't him the idea that a person who has had his life stolen away by a copy would just watch him do the same thing to someone else and then forgive him because love. He doesn't even have not knowing as an excuse and even if it was because he loves you so much, that isn't your responsibility. It's only connected to you because we're all connected to each other.
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Re: UN: FreeDyver - Text (After Movie Night #5...Sometime post-deal.)

[personal profile] tethered_roamer 2025-12-18 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
That still doesn't make it your fault. Him resenting MK could have shown in many ways. There's no reason that you would have to think that he'd choose that one. No reason you should have to assume the worst situation of people you care about when they seem normal.

I've only forgiven him because he didn't succeed and the bullying he was getting wasn't helping him. Told him to remind the others that tearing him down won't make things right with anyone. That I'll be waiting for him to prove he won't repeat home again, but I won't trust more than that he sees the problem and wants to change it.

You know what it like to not feel seen or to share more than you're getting. It's nice to have. That's not your fault and I doubt anyone would say you should feel bad for enjoying attention and not doing anything with what you couldn't see coming..
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Re: UN: FreeDyver - Text (After Movie Night #5...Sometime post-deal.)

[personal profile] tethered_roamer 2025-12-19 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
That's all I can ask.

That is a good sign overall and tracks with my last talk with him. Though I'm sorry he got shot. It's not my issue with him though. I'm genuinely glad he's doing better anyway.

I appreciate the explanation. And it makes sense. If it wasn't so personal to basically everything about who and what I am along with everything else maybe I'd be further into forgiving him or able to ask for your help. But I don't think anyone here even can so this is the best way.
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Re: UN: FreeDyver - Text (After Movie Night #5...Sometime post-deal.)

[personal profile] tethered_roamer 2025-12-19 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
MK told me about that when he asked me to be around when he brought Candid back.

That's a term I've never heard. But like I said, he's been forgiven. We're on the hard part.

We're never going to agree on that.
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Re: UN: FreeDyver - Text (After Movie Night #5...Sometime post-deal.)

[personal profile] tethered_roamer 2025-12-19 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
He did. It's another messy situation. But it sounds like he's got a better grasp on the scary part than he had before.

Pretty much all of you have more than I'm ever likely to have, so I'm not a good judge of "a lot". Two is a lot to me and I technically have that many.

I'll be more surprised if you ever don't hesitate.
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Re: UN: FreeDyver - Text (After Movie Night #5...Sometime post-deal.)

[personal profile] tethered_roamer 2025-12-19 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
He did. I can relate to either being the reason, but also how scary it is to have somone else use you to make that choice. Azure aside, MK needs support in coming to terms with Candid. Having Azure just means things are more complicated. And someone needs to make sure Candid is actually okay.

It's more than something.

What makes that funny is that's something I'll only ever need when I'm out of options. So you'll know it's bad.
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Re: UN: FreeDyver - Text (After Movie Night #5...Sometime post-deal.)

[personal profile] tethered_roamer 2025-12-19 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
Azure taking control of MK to make him snap Candid's neck. I know that MK didn't like what Candid said, but I have a hard time imagining he'd have chosen to test that in that manner. That's all.

Unless Candid has someone he trusts as much as you, you might be the only person who can find out if he's actually okay and make sure he's not alone. Even if it's just finding out who else he has and helping with reasons they should talk to him. I can support MK better than I can Candid because of similar experiences.

I'll remember.
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Re: UN: FreeDyver - Text (After Movie Night #5...Sometime post-deal.)

[personal profile] tethered_roamer 2025-12-19 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
He did what?
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Re: UN: FreeDyver - Text (After Movie Night #5...Sometime post-deal.)

[personal profile] tethered_roamer 2025-12-19 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't know anything about a Contagion. Are they both okay? MK brought him back perfectly normal. No goop for either of them.
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Re: UN: FreeDyver - Text (After Movie Night #5...Sometime post-deal.)

[personal profile] tethered_roamer 2025-12-19 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
I see.

It might be worth asking if it's possible to safety get a feel on how MK felt about Esme before. I knew he knows Esme and they were friends. It's been that way for quite awhile, so if it makes strong feelings then maybe we can find out when it happened at least.
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Re: UN: FreeDyver - Text (After Movie Night #5...Sometime post-deal.)

[personal profile] tethered_roamer 2025-12-19 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
I'll do that. Toby had something where he couldn't talk about things that happened in the city he'd come from or even try to remember. And Max seems to be connected, my work building too. But this is the most I've been told about that.
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Re: UN: FreeDyver - Text (After Movie Night #5...Sometime post-deal.)

[personal profile] tethered_roamer 2025-12-19 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
He's been the easiest to understand here. Especially because I'm not looking for something to break down the wall every time he reaches out. Or a song starts.