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Six-Eared Macaque ([personal profile] castaside) wrote2023-10-02 07:00 pm
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Re: UN: FreeDyver - Text (After Movie Night #5...Sometime post-deal.)

[personal profile] tethered_roamer 2025-12-16 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
It wasn't the cocoa I was sharing. It was home and safety. And I believe you when you say that, but the problem is what do we have now besides me giving you stress? Or was the problem since we know what we want.

I'm not going to push it.

But you were talking to some people through it. Me before I set that boundary and stopped trying to fix things, and Eash at least. And maybe Candid a bit based on his reactions back during the dreamsharing, but only maybe. And you came out overall better from it. There was no one I could talk to. I know that you can do that and still feel alone still. But there was no help for me until last year. And I was also in the middle for most of it. And I stayed in the middle until I fully knew you didn't really trust me.

I did, I was confused why that somehow extended to Wukong or anyone else is all. And if you seem like just being on nightmare nights is too much, I'll siggest you head off.
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Re: UN: FreeDyver - Text (After Movie Night #5...Sometime post-deal.)

[personal profile] tethered_roamer 2025-12-16 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Alright.

I don't doubt that he does. But he's also proven twice that I was expendable in all things where you're involved. So caring isn't enough for me to let him in again. He got close and I was more comfortable with him than anyone not you or MK. So he has to earn it, if he can. I told him I'll watch through the journey though.

You came out of it with a lot of strong foundations and understanding of yourself. That's good. It just also came with more pain than it should hae.

You're asking me to let you do something you won't let me do. But I'll agree to that so long as you do leave if you're truly uncomfortable. Because I can't wind down if you're fully on edge.
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Re: UN: FreeDyver - Text (After Movie Night #5...Sometime post-deal.)

[personal profile] tethered_roamer 2025-12-16 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
There are few people I'm not willing to help through these things. But as long as I'm not sure that it won't keep happening it'll be in other places and neutral. I'd be less upset if he had just tried to kill me or something.

Your foundations are willing to bend over backwards to help and support you. That's very strong. But I understand not liking the you that you understood. You're more open and you know better ways to deal with most things. That's not nothing.

I am always uncomfortable Macaque. And I didn't say I'm not interested. Just that there's going to be a long time before I even consider lowering my guard because of how things are with us. You wouldn't be pushing anything on me by wanting a day together with none of us at odds and I can at least say I wouldn't be the one at odds if things started to go badly. If they also won't put things at odds then there shouldn't be anything more awkward than people who don't know each other well being in a party.

Short might work.
Edited 2025-12-16 23:42 (UTC)
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Re: UN: FreeDyver - Text (After Movie Night #5...Sometime post-deal.)

[personal profile] tethered_roamer 2025-12-16 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm just being clear that I haven't.

Everyone says it doesn't matter what age you are you're not supposed to have to deal with these things on your own. A lot. So I'm going to assume that if we care and can be there then it's normal to.

Like I said, I'm not pushing. If you're not going to I'm not going to try to make you. I just want no misunderstandings on where I am on it. That it's worse that it is or anything.
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Re: UN: FreeDyver - Text (After Movie Night #5...Sometime post-deal.)

[personal profile] tethered_roamer 2025-12-18 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
That'd feel more true if it wasn't so wrapped up in each other. But I appreciate you leaving helping to being asked simply because I don't think there's anything you can do even if you want to help.

You keep saying you make everything worse. My thoughts on that haven't changed. And I'll leave that there.

Like I said, if that's your comfort zone then I'm not pushing. I'm just removing my lack of comfort from that reason.
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Re: UN: FreeDyver - Text (After Movie Night #5...Sometime post-deal.)

[personal profile] tethered_roamer 2025-12-18 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
If MK and you hadn't fallen out and two years ago hadn't happened then things would have gone differently with Candid. If Candid was even who he became since he wouldn't have been out so often. I probably wouldn't have gotten close to him as fast if I did at all. If none of what went bad had happened then he wouldn't have hated MK to the point he had tunnel vision like that. The only thing that makes no difference here is me dating MK or not and my feelings about what happened. The rest of it is all still wrapped up together. Just...Candid is the only one who can prove that he's safer again.


You can feel like it is, but that doesn't mean it needs to be. The fact is that I would be fine, so if you need to do this it needs to be for you and not you choosing what you think is better for me. Or for them. Better for you is enough.
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Re: UN: FreeDyver - Text (After Movie Night #5...Sometime post-deal.)

[personal profile] tethered_roamer 2025-12-18 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Candid made his own choices. But like everything else that happened it was for a reason that was connected to everything. That's not me blaming anyone for his actions. And it's too close together for me to just consider it a thing between me and him. Too many feelings, too much personal experience.

We're not going to agree it is, so the only one we know it will be is you. Which is all I want at the moment.
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Re: UN: FreeDyver - Text (After Movie Night #5...Sometime post-deal.)

[personal profile] tethered_roamer 2025-12-18 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
You'd have blame if you did see it and didn't do anything. And even if you had, you didn't him the idea that a person who has had his life stolen away by a copy would just watch him do the same thing to someone else and then forgive him because love. He doesn't even have not knowing as an excuse and even if it was because he loves you so much, that isn't your responsibility. It's only connected to you because we're all connected to each other.
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Re: UN: FreeDyver - Text (After Movie Night #5...Sometime post-deal.)

[personal profile] tethered_roamer 2025-12-18 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
That still doesn't make it your fault. Him resenting MK could have shown in many ways. There's no reason that you would have to think that he'd choose that one. No reason you should have to assume the worst situation of people you care about when they seem normal.

I've only forgiven him because he didn't succeed and the bullying he was getting wasn't helping him. Told him to remind the others that tearing him down won't make things right with anyone. That I'll be waiting for him to prove he won't repeat home again, but I won't trust more than that he sees the problem and wants to change it.

You know what it like to not feel seen or to share more than you're getting. It's nice to have. That's not your fault and I doubt anyone would say you should feel bad for enjoying attention and not doing anything with what you couldn't see coming..
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Re: UN: FreeDyver - Text (After Movie Night #5...Sometime post-deal.)

[personal profile] tethered_roamer 2025-12-19 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
That's all I can ask.

That is a good sign overall and tracks with my last talk with him. Though I'm sorry he got shot. It's not my issue with him though. I'm genuinely glad he's doing better anyway.

I appreciate the explanation. And it makes sense. If it wasn't so personal to basically everything about who and what I am along with everything else maybe I'd be further into forgiving him or able to ask for your help. But I don't think anyone here even can so this is the best way.
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Re: UN: FreeDyver - Text (After Movie Night #5...Sometime post-deal.)

[personal profile] tethered_roamer 2025-12-19 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
MK told me about that when he asked me to be around when he brought Candid back.

That's a term I've never heard. But like I said, he's been forgiven. We're on the hard part.

We're never going to agree on that.
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Re: UN: FreeDyver - Text (After Movie Night #5...Sometime post-deal.)

[personal profile] tethered_roamer 2025-12-19 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
He did. It's another messy situation. But it sounds like he's got a better grasp on the scary part than he had before.

Pretty much all of you have more than I'm ever likely to have, so I'm not a good judge of "a lot". Two is a lot to me and I technically have that many.

I'll be more surprised if you ever don't hesitate.